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Jan 8, 2021

The part in this that is so important is the relationship building component, and that part takes time… (it) is the glue that brings cohesion across the issues and it enables a different form of listening and a different openness, in my view, that includes openness to hearing the science….. Science is the strongest tool of diplomacy.”

Michelle Wyman, NCSE

This week as the National Council of Science and the Environment, NCSE, embarks on its 2021 conference, days before we have a new President of the United States and new Congress, and amidst the still-raging COVID-19 pandemic, listen to NCSE’s Executive Director Michelle Wyman with host Joan Michelson on Green Connections Radio podcast about how we can better integrate science into decisions and policy making. 

It can mean the difference between life and death, literally. But how do you do it, especially with policymakers and elected officials who resist the science?

You’ll hear:

  • Why science is important in policymaking, in case you need someone to make the case for you.
  • How to effectively bring science into a discussion with someone who does not value it or doesn’t want to hear it – with stories from her own experience.
  • How to communicate science to Congress and other elected officials so it influences their decisions.
  • Why preparation matters – and how to do it.
  • Plus great career advice!

“Stay very clearly focused on remembering not to get boxed in. Not to stay in your lane….There may be ways to step outside that lane, there may be complete pivot points where you can go in a totally different direction and it doesn’t need to happen only when you’re 25.”

Michelle Wyman on Green Connections Radio podcast

You’ll also want to listen to:

  • Stacy Jupiter, another recent MacArthur “Genius” winner working in climate change mitigation



  • Ingrid Daubechies of Duke University, MacArthur “genius” award winner, and master innovative thinker.


  • Beth Gibbons, climate change adaptation leader working with local resilience teams.

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